growsince79
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150w hps is $80. 100w hlg is $150. You need at least 400w for a 4x4. 500w is better.
150w hps is $80. 100w hlg is $150. You need at least 400w for a 4x4. 500w is better.I doubt I can find both for under 300, for a 4x4.
I used to run CMH as well before saving money and changing to LEDs. I had a doubleended 630W CMH from Iluminar Lighting which if I remember correctly was around 350$. It ran very well and for the almost 2 years that I used it, it was very consistent on highly dende yieldsI'm looking to drop 300 in lights. Exhausting the heat will not be an issue if I get tubed hoods for mh and hps. Found a 1000w kit with both bulbs and vented hood for 260. Also found a single 315 cmh for 280.
I don't know which to buy. I want dense Buds in a packed 4x4 on fall phonics system. It will be right next to another 4x4 That I will build in the future. The incline cooled hoods will work great when I upgrade.. Idk about the CMHs.. I can't afford the 630 and I've read that's what I need for my 4x4.
I'm thinking just hps and mh for my price? I, doubt I'll have any complaints lol.. I want bulk fast.. Short veg times on hydro.
I'll spend that, I can't find them cheap for 110 power.. Gotta link lol? I'd much rather have a double 630. I gave up on price searching them.. I'll start looking again.I used to run CMH as well before saving money and changing to LEDs. I had a doubleended 630W CMH from Iluminar Lighting which if I remember correctly was around 350$. It ran very well and for the almost 2 years that I used it, it was very consistent on highly dende yields
Not all light is the same. Spectrum is very important.Light is Light, the only difference is the amount of electricity used to produce that light
Bull, photons are photons, spectrum only plays a role in plant morphology not quality or yieldNot all light is the same. Spectrum is very important.
And heat, LED's produce far less heat.Light is Light, the only difference is the amount of electricity used to produce that light
So your saying it dont matter if you use a MH or HPS the entire grow? The yeild will be the exact same if the plant is untouched and grown with the exact same environmental conditions?Bull, photons are photons, spectrum only plays a role in plant morphology not quality or yield
Might get this for my 4x4.. Should be overkill?
I looked on that site and couldnt figure out how to use it. Guess ill download the app :\ Its too late on this current 4x4 build. I ordered a 1000w mh and hps lol. Should be more than enough for my 4 plant top feed hydro. . . only one way to find out :) But yes, as soon as its done built, ill start on my other 4x4, which ill go fancy leds in.You can get two 240W Kingbright LEDs from Alibaba with your budget.
?There is something to spectrum. But I think it is also somewhat overblown.
I grew this with cheap single ended Chinese HPS lamps.View attachment 1117471 It's flavor and potency is outstanding. Plus, the guy I got the genetics from grows the same strain with both fluence led and de hps, and honestly the de hps does as well or better. Has better penetration into the canopy for sure. And there is hardly any noticable difference in the smoke or bag appeal.
I think its splitting hairs to choose which grows better weed. The factors that matter are, heat produced and energy consumed. If you need that heat, hps is my choice. If growing in the warmer south, I'd choose LED. Granted that applies mostly to dedicated grow buildings. I think there is a strong argument for choosing LED for spare room tent grows.
I have led now but i loved my de hps.just need a taller ceiling .buds they grow get huge.There is something to spectrum. But I think it is also somewhat overblown.
I grew this with cheap single ended Chinese HPS lamps.View attachment 1117471 It's flavor and potency is outstanding. Plus, the guy I got the genetics from grows the same strain with both fluence led and de hps, and honestly the de hps does as well or better. Has better penetration into the canopy for sure. And there is hardly any noticable difference in the smoke or bag appeal.
I think its splitting hairs to choose which grows better weed. The factors that matter are, heat produced and energy consumed. If you need that heat, hps is my choice. If growing in the warmer south, I'd choose LED. Granted that applies mostly to dedicated grow buildings. I think there is a strong argument for choosing LED for spare room tent grows.
That's another important consideration. BUT, my friend has been running his DE HID in adjustawings lately and that let's him get the lamps MUCH closer to the plants than the greenhouse reflectors they normally come with. Those boxy reflectors are designed to be mounted high in a greenhouse and cast the light in a fairly narrow pattern, and the hood traps heat like a mofo. Adjustawings and good airflow above the canopy let's my buddy drop the 750 DE down to within a foot or so from the plants.?
I have led now but i loved my de hps.just need a taller ceiling .buds they grow get huge.
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So your saying it dont matter if you use a MH or HPS the entire grow? The yeild will be the exact same if the plant is untouched and grown with the exact same environmental conditions?
I dont understand photons but I do somewhat understand magnetic waves. Wouldnt a photons have a different effect at a different speed and intensity, aka different spectrum, or am I conflating the two? You could literally emit a photon that would burn right through the plant in theory, or one that would not be able to penetrate at all. Your saying the plant will adapt to it?
Just seems very . . .confusing since I dont understand par very well. Perhaps its something I will dive into lol. I mean it makes sense, but idk, I can imagine the majority might disagree? Or at least not understand as well?
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