I think ive actually made it to my first feed? WOW.

[CosmoGrows]

Its normal for the leaves to get heavy and do that after a good watering. They perk up later dont they?

yes but it leaves behind damage, for example, the leaves look more veiny, or the curling on the sides of the leaf never go away.

 

[MIMedGrower]

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Before watering.

Wilting when too dry starts at the bottom leaves. Its a cue to check how dry the pot is. Not the upper leaves first.

You are still overthinking and overanalyzing this.

 

[CosmoGrows]

see how they look curled in, and puffed up, that will probably never go away now, it normally doesnt.

 

[MIMedGrower]

yes but it leaves behind damage, for example, the leaves look more veiny, or the curling on the sides of the leaf never go away.

I am not seeing damage. And i don t know how they are on nutrients but ribbed curled down leaves can have a bit too much nutes too.

 

[CosmoGrows]

Wilting when too dry starts at the bottom leaves. Its a cue to check how dry the pot is. Not the upper leaves first.

You are still overthinking and overanalyzing this.

That helps, need to know more a cue than to lift the pots. the plant needs to show something noticable, i understand thats not how its always gunna be and i cant make it like that, but the pot lifting isnt helping tbh. they feel light as hell, i water they get heavy, theyre overwatered. i use a moisture meter, it says drier than a desert, i water, its overwatered. it doesnt matter how much i give it.
so next time im going to start looking for bottom wilting. and see if that will be a good cue when to water. i really need to a good cue.

 

[CosmoGrows]

I am not seeing damage. And i don t know how they are on nutrients but ribbed curled down leaves can have a bit too much nutes too.

kk cool, its in happy frog. been in there for a couple of weeks now. havent fed any nute.

 

[MIMedGrower]

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see how they look curled in, and puffed up, that will probably never go away now, it normally doesnt.

No. Its fine. And it will keep looking different at times.

 

[CosmoGrows]

No. Its fine. And it will keep looking different at times.

Appreciate the reassurance mimed.

grrr

 

[MIMedGrower]

That helps, need to know more a cue than to lift the pots. the plant needs to show something noticable, i understand thats not how its always gunna be and i cant make it like that, but the pot lifting isnt helping tbh. they feel light as hell, i water they get heavy, theyre overwatered. i use a moisture meter, it says drier than a desert, i water, its overwatered. it doesnt matter how much i give it.
so next time im going to start looking for bottom wilting. and see if that will be a good cue when to water. i really need to a good cue.

Here are two plants after transplant to 3 gallon feom 1 gallon. The plant on the left was perfectly timed. The one on the right a bit too dry and has started wilting. She straightened out by the end of the day.

 

[CosmoGrows]

Okay my plant started to look like yours on the RIGHT! What did you do, water it? and it perked up?

 

[CosmoGrows]

another before water, you can see those top leaves are touching the set below.

 

[MIMedGrower]

kk cool, its in happy frog. been in there for a couple of weeks now. havent fed any nute.

You start fertilizing with a light dose and work up slowly when you see the lower leaves start to pale and yellow normally.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Okay my plant started to look like yours on the RIGHT! What did you do, water it? and it perked up?

Just said i transplanted them. Then watered to runoff like always.

 

[MIMedGrower]

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another before water, you can see those top leaves are touching the set below.

Top leaves droop some on some strains more than others while pushing out new leaves or buds. The low and middle leaves show need for water and it was likely in tjat order. And the soil looks dry and light colored.

I learned all of this in the jorje cervantes book. The soil and water sections are excellent info.

 

[CosmoGrows]

Top leaves droop some on some strains more than others while pushing out new leaves or buds. The low and middle leaves show need for water and it was likely in tjat order. And the soil looks dry and light colored.

I learned all of this in the jorje cervantes book. The soil and water sections are excellent info.

Helpful, thanks mimed. Seriously, if i knew that before, ugh haha. i should get that book.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Helpful, thanks mimed. Seriously, if i knew that before, ugh haha. i should get that book.

I didn't learn any of this on forums. I read books and practiced for 2 years before posting or even joining a weed forum. Very frustrating and confusing way to learn in my opinion. How can a new grower know who to listen to? I jist followed the info in that and ed rosenthals book until i find my own groove. And if i needed more info like about ph or nutrient deficiency i looked to greenhouse nutrient guides and such. kacks classic and pro mic sites have the real info without mystic weed myths.

 

[m8ty]

I get the sense that you think over watering comes from feeding too much water at once instead of the frequency between watering?

Also it seems like the fabric pots are causing a problem by letting the water leak through the sides of the fabric container before it has a chance to saturate the soil.

Try using the plastic pots instead of fabric and I suspect it's gonna help, it seems to me those fabric pots are your problem.

Also LED can be very intense of a light if not put on a mover or dimmed down and placed far away from the plants specially in a small tent like that.

 

[707finisher]

This is a couple days after i first moved them into the led light. some are eating it up, some in the middle are getting more the poofy leaves, 2 different kinds reacting different to the led, they both have some leave poof/droop

A couple days after moving it under the hps, these guys the poofy is gone and the leaves are perkier, the herer in the back seem to not care either way

 

[m8ty]

some in the middle are getting more the poofy leaves

the middle is where the light "hotspot" is, this is why the LED light has to be put very far up away from the canopy or dimmed down.

 

[CosmoGrows]

Well, we did bounce back after last night. going to take it as a strong learning experience.