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I've tried telling you a bunch of times what I'm doing yet you are adamant to get me to do what you want me to do. There's a lot of stuff you don't understand. Cannabis is more than studying for two years. My cannabis spectrum is as full as the Carts you buy at the Dispo. For me it's not just about growing, it's advocating, protecting and forshadowing too.I'm going to just leave one more thought and then leave this thread to the legit growers.
I learned and studied for 2 years to catch up on all of the current information in growing before germinating my first seed. But I have been around growers since high school, we had an aquaponics with HPS setup. I have argued these same things with my buddies that grow because I'm all about simplicity. I wanted an easy, just water way to grow.
I had 1 thing to learn properly because I researched and educated myself, how to water correctly. I've then worked on dialing in my setup and environment. Maybe I'm the exception to the rule, but it made my experience so much easier.
I literally grow by water only. What bad programming and teaching have I fallen for? Do you know my setup, my philosophy in growing, my goals for growing? Lots of assumptions.... and you know what they say about thatI've tried telling you a bunch of times what I'm doing yet you are adamant to get me to do what you want me to do. There's a lot of stuff you don't understand. Cannabis is more than studying for two years. My cannabis spectrum is as full as the Carts you buy at the Dispo. For me it's not just about growing, it's advocating, protecting and forshadowing too.
You say you're a new grower but you don't understand that you learned a bunch of bad stuff mixed in with the good. Watching influencers pimp products, stressing on certain topics...lots of bs out there, lots of Dunning/Kruger. It's not your fault, things seem legit, I'm here to tell you it's not that serious. You don't think I studied too? It's easy for me, you on the other hand are overwhelmed.
You think I'm the enemy when I'm really your best friend. One day maybe you'll understand. Now chill before I go making videos about how I'm the greatest. Not because I am the greatest but because I know they burn bottoms even tho I'm making jokes.
Also makes me question your motives. You throw out how everyone has nefarious reasoning for pushing a product or style. What's yours? Can't just be about education or why attack anything I've saidI've tried telling you a bunch of times what I'm doing yet you are adamant to get me to do what you want me to do. There's a lot of stuff you don't understand. Cannabis is more than studying for two years. My cannabis spectrum is as full as the Carts you buy at the Dispo. For me it's not just about growing, it's advocating, protecting and forshadowing too.
You say you're a new grower but you don't understand that you learned a bunch of bad stuff mixed in with the good. Watching influencers pimp products, stressing on certain topics...lots of bs out there, lots of Dunning/Kruger. It's not your fault, things seem legit, I'm here to tell you it's not that serious. You don't think I studied too? It's easy for me, you on the other hand are overwhelmed.
You think I'm the enemy when I'm really your best friend. One day maybe you'll understand. Now chill before I go making videos about how I'm the greatest. Not because I am the greatest but because I know they burn bottoms even tho I'm making jokes.
A key word in that sentence is "teaching." That's the best approach, but so many folks — both new growers and experienced growers — come here for help with a specific problem. There may be what some refer to as a "teachable moment," but perhaps not. Oftentimes, the need for help is immediate. In my early career I did a lot of tech support, and I can't tell you how many times I heard something like this: "I don't want to learn how to do it. I just want to get it done." For a frustrated person, taking the time to teach only adds to their frustration.Think this all just boils down to a difference of approach on teaching "new growers"
You use water only oh my what madness is thisI literally grow by water only. What bad programming and teaching have I fallen for? Do you know my setup, my philosophy in growing, my goals for growing? Lots of assumptions.... and you know what they say about that
Yeah you get it. I'm not just a grower I'm an advocate and protector. I've learned things over the years especially about businessmen and politics. People may wonder what that has to do with growing and you explained it.I respect your view, I personally like bugby for what he is good at. I am not a fan of science in general though, academia is a very corrupt institution where those who fund the studies FAR too often sway the results. Hence the whole sugar Industry demonizing fat, rice cakes are healthy???carbs are good....
Anyways I am always will to look at things objectively, just because I like bugby doesn't mean he hasn't fooled me and he could be awful. People who try to save the world aren't always good. I am a captain planet save the enviornment person but I recognize the green movement as the cash grab it is. The real answers like organic healthy soil and mass composting are ignored. Look at our dr. Fasci for a prime example as a pseudo scientist. Anyways take care, always love some push back! I love people who will debate ✌
yep well there’s landrace strains with such high amounts of thcp you’d forget your name,. won’t be finding much of that in any modern weedWow! What a thread! I just caught up from page 8 and saved some quotes along the way. Overall, in my opinion, I'd say it's important to separate opinion from knowledge.
Need to separate organic soil and synthetic soil growing.
Understood. Basically, it means letting one person provide the help. I suppose we would call that mentoring. It doesn't need to be done via PMs, though.
Vitamin C can neutralize chlorine and chloramine.
Or, they could have problems. Such statements are often misleading. Universal truths are rare.
Seriously! Have you assessed the capabilities of every new grower on the planet?
I do.
That's insulting. I spent most of my working life in academia. You won't find any human endeavor that lacks corruption, but to condemn so many people in a single statement saddens me. I wasn't corrupt.
Well... Just a slight correction... The word "environment" can be all-encompassing. Lighting is part of the plant's environment. So, too, are temperature and humidity.
I've thought about that occasionally over the years. My conclusion is breeding other species (and occasionally our own species) is a fundamental part of being human. Just stop and consider all the plants and animals humans have bred for their own purposes: cats, dogs, cattle, corn (and many other vegetables), etc. Is it a surprise that cannabis is included in that group? Lamenting the loss of nature in its purest form is quite understandable, but, at the same time, unavoidable. Indeed, space travel may require specialized breeds of plants, but it may also require breeding specialized humans.
Go back in history and look at the number of times science has been correct. Science is "the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained." (Oxford) Basically, science is a disciplined process for the accumulation of knowledge. It cannot be an immutable body of knowledge until everything that can be known is known, and we're a long way away from that being the case. I have pondered, however, what it would be like to know everything that is knowable. I suspect it would be boring.
Ah! The conversation continued as I wrote this.
Admittedly I grow in amended living organic soil that I re-amend and recycle. 4th grow, about to go five. I do use a drop of raw organic unfiltered honey to keep the microbes happy, but that's itYou use water only oh my what madness is this
lol I tried once the bud had a wonderful taste props on ya for sticking with it
Lead me to it! Please! It's an honorable pursuit, indeed.yep well there’s landrace strains with such high amounts of thcp you’d forget your name,. won’t be finding much of that in any modern weed
no i think that especially for new grower, worrying about vpd is useless. lot of people are growing without giving a damn about vpd, think about outdoor ...For more experienced growers, yes, but new growers should really have an understanding of environmental factors and setups because it will give them a foundation to build on moving forward
I hate spending time with you...I don't care about your point. Especially when you don't care about what I'm doing in this thread as you mess it up by demanding I teach your way. You're really messing this up.My point, and why I kept on it, it that I believe new growers SHOULD be given ALL the information on ALL the different styles and methods of growing so that THEY can CHOOSE for themselves on what works best for their locale, budget, and setup/space.
My key point of contention it that understanding VPD and the plants response to it. Not telling them to dial in thier grow first run, but understanding it will help them dial-in in the future. Create growers with understanding, you know teach a man to fish.
Perfect reply lolWow! What a thread! I just caught up from page 8 and saved some quotes along the way. Overall, in my opinion, I'd say it's important to separate opinion from knowledge.
Need to separate organic soil and synthetic soil growing.
Understood. Basically, it means letting one person provide the help. I suppose we would call that mentoring. It doesn't need to be done via PMs, though.
Vitamin C can neutralize chlorine and chloramine.
Or, they could have problems. Such statements are often misleading. Universal truths are rare.
Seriously! Have you assessed the capabilities of every new grower on the planet?
I do.
That's insulting. I spent most of my working life in academia. You won't find any human endeavor that lacks corruption, but to condemn so many people in a single statement saddens me. I wasn't corrupt.
Well... Just a slight correction... The word "environment" can be all-encompassing. Lighting is part of the plant's environment. So, too, are temperature and humidity.
I've thought about that occasionally over the years. My conclusion is breeding other species (and occasionally our own species) is a fundamental part of being human. Just stop and consider all the plants and animals humans have bred for their own purposes: cats, dogs, cattle, corn (and many other vegetables), etc. Is it a surprise that cannabis is included in that group? Lamenting the loss of nature in its purest form is quite understandable, but, at the same time, unavoidable. Indeed, space travel may require specialized breeds of plants, but it may also require breeding specialized humans.
Go back in history and look at the number of times science has been correct. Science is "the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained." (Oxford) Basically, science is a disciplined process for the accumulation of knowledge. It cannot be an immutable body of knowledge until everything that can be known is known, and we're a long way away from that being the case. I have pondered, however, what it would be like to know everything that is knowable. I suspect it would be boring.
Ah! The conversation continued as I wrote this.
Umm, you do know that even Science denies itself right? That's science. Sounds like you've been gaslighted and now you're gaslighting. Politics...LOL.....science deniers. Very good. Carry on.
Go research Dunning/Kruger.And what type is that?
It's absolutly negative. I'm sitting here trying to help others and you're combating me. You won't listen. You said you were leaving this thread but now your back stinking it up.I'm not the one throwing shots, just asking what he was referring to, since it seems to be implied as a negative
Hi, me once again, this is not your thread nor your mission.Everyone jumped on the trigger word "VPD" and negated that I was only advocating for educating new growers over "that's too much information." Go back read every post I made in this thread. I asked questions that were answered by attacking the questioner rather than the question.
Now he is implying I'm sort of grower he avoids, figure it would be nice for the other growers that are like me to know so they can avoid him
your telling me, i still have memories of certain times as a teenager/young 20’s getting so damn high that you couldn’t be out in public, i remember times being soo high you’d black out or have laughing attacks lasting hours,.. i spent a few days researching the net, going through old book, videos about landrace strains, the negatives of breeding etc,. soo my mind is mush about now, though if i find it ill post it about a landrace strain with high amounts of thcp,. yes i know you can go buy vape stuff with thcp but thats lab created or derived from hemp,. i want it in its most naturally developed form meaning the strain which produces it naturally along with the other cannabinoids terpenes etc to get the real high if that makes sense, in that strain,. i dont care about fluffy buds etc i care about trichomes, fluffy buds would be better for me as i make hashish and oil,.. yes i wont be able to have the same environment but its the way i want to go,.. the thing is most old stoners know this but dont know what happened, just figured it was tolerance but it was all the breeding that started, and that yes did some good things but mostly its removing things we possibly don’t even know about yet,. so old stoners we know from experience were just waiting the next 50 years for science to catch up hahaha,.. hopefully in that time there will still be rare pure landrace strains left,..Lead me to it! Please! It's an honorable pursuit, indeed.
Well... At my advanced age, my body doesn't tolerate extremely high potency, so we tend to blend. Pain relief is my holy grail these days. I do recall the old times, though. It was maybe 1965 when I first partook in magical marijuana, and it didn't stop there. Such memories cause me to wonder how I survived my youth.
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