Shady’s Natural Selection… Round 4: More Strains & Growing Pains

[justiceman]

Sup man! haven't been by in a little as I have been slowly getting ready for the next quest with coco, not to mention I am still drying my harvest to perfection. I will get shots later when it's ready.

Great looking stuff going on here man. I like that Chemdog lineage chart. It is very interesting to inspect. I am also digging your mind chart of photosynthesis. It makes me want to improve my knowledge about how it works. I have to admit I am also little jealous of your guys with your Calculus abilities and such. You are seriously making me want to up my knowledge.

 

[HighTolerance]

Sup man! haven't been by in a little as I have been slowly getting ready for the next quest with coco, not to mention I am still drying my harvest to perfection. I will get shots later when it's ready.

Great looking stuff going on here man. I like that Chemdog lineage chart. It is very interesting to inspect. I am also digging your mind chart of photosynthesis. It makes me want to improve my knowledge about how it works. I have to admit I am also little jealous of your guys with your Calculus abilities and such. You are seriously making me want to up my knowledge.

yeah the chart was great, i was surprised that all those strains could be narrowed down like that, especially since all of it wasn't done in one place by one person, probably 100s of people were involved all across the states, but good to see the summary.

 

[Raiderfan420]

Fantastic man! Every thing looks perfect. You are really getting dailed now brother! Is that top net for the top canopy? Do you run your light 12" from the canopy? Remind me what you wattage is on your lights. I am just curious, because I get some belaching with my 1000w lights with anything closer than 18"

 

[GrizzleB]

Lookin great as usual!

 

[HighTolerance]

Fantastic man! Every thing looks perfect. You are really getting dailed now brother! Is that top net for the top canopy? Do you run your light 12" from the canopy? Remind me what you wattage is on your lights. I am just curious, because I get some belaching with my 1000w lights with anything closer than 18"

my 600w causes light bleaching at 12", the buds under the 439 son agro bulb look nicer than the 600, so i just dimmed my 600 to 400 and lowered the light to 6-8 inches

 

[Raiderfan420]

my 600w causes light bleaching at 12", the buds under the 439 son agro bulb look nicer than the 600, so i just dimmed my 600 to 400 and lowered the light to 6-8 inches

Really? So don't you lose a lot of lumens though? I am starting to think that the intense light is better up until a certain point and toward the end it might be better to have softer light. my buds directly under the light always look better for the first 6 weeks and always get bigger, but the outside buds look real healthy at the end while the other start bleaching and burning. I am at 18 -24" with aircoold 1000ws, it isn't hot at that distance, but the light intensitiy seems to be a bit much. I origianlly thought it was my strain, but now with 3 different strains running, the sme thing is happening.

 

[Raiderfan420]

Hey Bro, can you tell me how to re-name my link in my signature. I can't for life of me figure it out. Thanks

 

[HighTolerance]

Really? So don't you lose a lot of lumens though? I am starting to think that the intense light is better up until a certain point and toward the end it might be better to have softer light. my buds directly under the light always look better for the first 6 weeks and always get bigger, but the outside buds look real healthy at the end while the other start bleaching and burning. I am at 18 -24" with aircoold 1000ws, it isn't hot at that distance, but the light intensitiy seems to be a bit much. I origianlly thought it was my strain, but now with 3 different strains running, the sme thing is happening.

Just because me space is really tight, shit the reflector really fits in the space. And I have panda film on the wall so all the light that would be reflected a ways from the reflector if the space was larger but since it is so small almost all the lumens end up getting focused right on my entire tight space. This goes in parallel with the fact that I had evenly sized huge colas everywhere even on the borders and the corner.

I completely agree with you, the reduced light intensity also goes along with the trend in the nature at least for the most part. I don't notice any bleaching during the veg or first 3 weeks of bloom, i run 1x600 a/c w/ 6'' 430 cfm exhaust fan, i get as close as 6'' with the 600 during veg and the 430 the plants almost touch the glass during veg.

Thanks for sharing your experience Raider, since i am inexperienced in this department, your similar observation gave excellent conformation to track i was thinking on.

Sorry Shady mate for the quick hijack. Please let me know if you allow this sort of thing in your log.

 

[HighTolerance]

Hey Bro, can you tell me how to re-name my link in my signature. I can't for life of me figure it out. Thanks

user menu in green on the left has a link to edit signature.

 

[LEBDOG]

End to HIJACK - PLEASE PM OFF TOPIC

Hey Bro, can you tell me how to re-name my link in my signature. I can't for life of me figure it out. Thanks

user menu in green on the left has a link to edit signature.

To present text with a link attached to the text, you have to use the INSERT LINK CODE (URL). If you respond to a post you can see how they format it. I just did it below and it worked. HTML coding didn't work.

Click reply and click at the paperclip with the earth icon. This is where I got the formatting from.

test link to google search

Please PM me or Shady to avoid Hijacking his post any further if you need any more assistance.

 

[Shady]

Shady Bud Shots...

Best looking bathroom remodel Ive seen to date!! Id like me 1 of those veg stations!!
pm sent!!

Thx bud! I love it, but soon it will all be in a tent... or two, wait... maybe three. :call

Keep pushin them boundaries. Right ON! Lookin killer man.

Thx M.S.T.! I'm about to out grow my Shady Veg Station soon. Gonna have to do some natural selection on the bottom shelf... :cool

...see shade, blowin up at the farm. Congrats, your rounds are looking way better and on point. Def doing your thang!

Finally got you to bless my journal at the Farm. :giggle I'm just giving you a hard time... I owe you many thanks for all the help in soil and when you're ready, I'll def help you in hydro...

Great looking stuff going on here man. I like that Chemdog lineage chart. It is very interesting to inspect. I am also digging your mind chart of photosynthesis. It makes me want to improve my knowledge about how it works. I have to admit I am also little jealous of your guys with your Calculus abilities and such. You are seriously making me want to up my knowledge.

Hey brah! I'm glad you stopped by and I look forward to hearing about your coco research... Yeah, seems as though we aren't gonna get much comments on the Chemdog chart... Hmmm, I guess it must be correct. :lipssealed And to be quite honest, after 10 years being a Construction Manager I would def need a few refresher courses to remember my calculus... :nerd

Fantastic man! Every thing looks perfect. You are really getting dailed now brother! Is that top net for the top canopy? Do you run your light 12" from the canopy? Remind me what you wattage is on your lights. I am just curious, because I get some belaching with my 1000w lights with anything closer than 18"

Thx my friend! My 600W Horitlux Super HPS is generally 18" to 22" from the top colas cuz I've angled it to hit the Section A plants, and the plan was for the top net to slide down when I need the cola's supported. In reality, the bottom net should have been put on much earlier. So the top net may not even be necessary, but we shall see in about 5 wks... :friday:

I completely agree with you, the reduced light intensity also goes along with the trend in the nature at least for the most part. I don't notice any bleaching during the veg or first 3 weeks of bloom, i run 1x600 a/c w/ 6'' 430 cfm exhaust fan, i get as close as 6'' with the 600 during veg and the 430 the plants almost touch the glass during veg.

Thanks for sharing your experience Raider, since i am inexperienced in this department, your similar observation gave excellent conformation to track i was thinking on.

Sorry Shady mate for the quick hijack. Please let me know if you allow this sort of thing in your log.

I have no prob discussing these topics... I often hijack my buddies threads... just ask R. Face and Justiceman... :D I've asked them a ton of questions... it's good cuz it gets us to think.

I'm a bit surprised that you can actually get that close in veg HT... As for flowering, I've burned the tip of a cola before when the lights were around 12" uncooled... That was in Round 1 w/o an air cooled hood, so I figure once Section A is done, I can get that light to about 12" from the colas and the top net will be a few inches below...

I honestly think the bleaching that you and Raiderfan420 are discussing is more likely a nutrient burn due to a salt imbalance... Remember during bloom you are hitting your girls with high PPM's and salts are building up in the medium and the plants, unless you find that balance a flush around 4 weeks seems to be the trick to avoid it...

Feel free to post a couple leaf shots if you got them... :sign0005:

Lookin great as usual!

Sup GrizzleB!!! Glad you made it to the Farm! Lots of info and some killer beans on the Bay if you got a fast internet connection and good reflexes. :fighting0085:

Hey Bro, can you tell me how to re-name my link in my signature. I can't for life of me figure it out. Thanks

Sure... Here's the instructions and I edited your link and sent it to you via PM...

Start by copying the entire web address of your journal, then paste it into Word...

It's real easy to edit the HTML link in Microsoft Word. Here's the instructions:
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Unfortunately, Word doesn’t always get the Web address correct. Or, you may decide you want to change the displayed text.

Fortunately, there is an easy way to edit Hyperlinks in Microsoft Word:

1. Right-click the Hyperlink

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6. Click OK when your changes are complete
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:whew I'm glad I saved those instructions...

Please PM me or Shady to avoid Hijacking his post any further if you need any more assistance.

LMAO... No worries LEBDOG. That's like the pot calling the kettle black... Remember when we first met... :evilgrin I don't mind it at all. In this context we can all learn something from discussions. Now for the bud porn...



Shady Bud Shots…

Section A
Hmmm, I haven’t watered the plants since they were fed on Monday and the very small amount of water with the Great White the other day… I haven’t flushed any of Section A or B either… Section A begins Week 7 today and Section B begins Week 5. Any suggestions? I plan on just feeding them tomorrow…

SFV OG (clearly the bag seed genetics aren’t the same as the real deal)…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/SFVOG-4.jpg

Mystery Kush 2 (I really regret not taking cuts of this bag seed though)…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/MysteryKush2-2.jpg

Master x Bubba is gettin’ bigger…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/MasterxBubba0-2.jpg

http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/MasterxBubba1-2.jpg

707 Headband’s hairs are turning, but I hope she continues to pump out some white ones after I hit her and the rest of Section A hard with Hammer Head tomorrow…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/707Headband0-1.jpg

http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/707Headband1-1.jpg


Section B
That’s Chem’s Sis 2 in the foreground…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/SectionB0.jpg

Did a balancing act on the sink for this shot…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/SectionB1.jpg

And literally was standing on the ledge and hanging on the shower rod for this one…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/SectionB2.jpg

A closeup of a Chem’s Sis 1…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/ChemsSis1.jpg

And a Double Underdawg 2 looking hungry…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/DoubleUnderdawg2.jpg


Seedlings
Two weeks ago I started my DIY ebb n’ flow at 480 PPM, 5.9 pH… At the end of the first week the PPM’s drifted to 6.2 and the PPM’s were at 510. So I added enough acid to drop the pH down to 5.76. Today the res was finally lower by 2 gal and I noticed root aphids once again hanging around in my tray. I added 2 gal of R/O with 2 ml/gal of CalMag, 6 ml/gal of Zone, and more acid to top off my res at 500 PPM and 5.65 pH. Soon after I did two floods one hour apart there were dead aphids… So far so good, but I may add more Zone in a couple days depending on how the plants are doing. Here are the seedlings…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/Seedlings.jpg

I also did a very light spray on the Shady Bloom Room with BioNeem, and just drenched the Shady Veg Station heavily at lights out. I also flooded the ebb ‘n flow tray before the drench (I have only been using two flood cycles during the day when the lights turn on at 7 am and one at 6 pm… I find that this is perfect in veg). Hahaa I think the Hot Shots disturbed the borg, so I brought it out tonight again. I will pick-up some diatomaceous earth and SM-90 for the soil plants tomorrow.
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P.S. I accidentally closed Mozilla Firefox and thought I just lost this entire response... Thank god for the Recently Closed Window tab under the History menu!!!!!!!!

 

[winta]

lookin good my dude! that mystery looks too good! just take a clone wit a bud on it whats the worst that can happen? lmao

 

[HighTolerance]

Thanks for a detailed reply man, it would have sucked if you lost your entire response.

hell yeah dude take a clone of that mbs. i have done it before at 5 weeks into flowering, it rooted in 5 days just like my other clones, then went through a retarted look for a few weeks, then came back to veg.

 

[justiceman]

Sup Shady! that section A is getting frost my man! I can totally understand your disappointment in not taking some cuts from the mystery kush 2. Oh well their exist other phenos hidden within the seeds of many bags. I'd probably just do plain water on Section 2 for a week 9 harvest, unless you plan on taking them longer then that. Section B indeed would probably like some food. What have you been giving them as of late? Man those seedlings are looking great man. What are they again Raskals OG, Chem valley kush, sensi skunk, and Butchers blue fire x kali mist? How old are those seedling now? 2 weeks or slightly longer?

 

[Shady]

lookin good my dude! that mystery looks too good! just take a clone wit a bud on it whats the worst that can happen? lmao

Hahaa... She's looking like a star this round. Ehh, it's alright cuz I still have a few more mystery kush beans left, not to mention the rest of my seed stash... :whew

Thanks for a detailed reply man, it would have sucked if you lost your entire response.

hell yeah dude take a clone of that mbs. i have done it before at 5 weeks into flowering, it rooted in 5 days just like my other clones, then went through a retarted look for a few weeks, then came back to veg.

Ahh, man I was so pissed when I accidentally closed the window... I think I did a preview first and that helped save my data. Anyways, I think if it were week 5 I'd prob try, but week 7 just started today... :thinking

Sup Shady! that section A is getting frost my man! I can totally understand your disappointment in not taking some cuts from the mystery kush 2. Oh well their exist other phenos hidden within the seeds of many bags. I'd probably just do plain water on Section 2 for a week 9 harvest, unless you plan on taking them longer then that. Section B indeed would probably like some food. What have you been giving them as of late? Man those seedlings are looking great man. What are they again Raskals OG, Chem valley kush, sensi skunk, and Butchers blue fire x kali mist? How old are those seedling now? 2 weeks or slightly longer?

Thx bud! The seedlings were germinated starting on 1/21/10, and then planted into rapid rooters on 1/25/10.

Yep, that list of seedlings is correct... Hopefully I can make Swerve, The Cali Connection, and Butcher Bob proud!

Also, it looks like only one Sensi Skunk isn't going to make it, as it was a runt that never properly rooted. All the other seedlings look great and are pretty much at the same stage... Well, I'm on my iPhone right now, but all my feedings are detailed and easy to spot as the headings are formated. I just fed all of Section A and B today and noticed that the 707 is throwing out more white hairs as of this morning. I'll post up my mix along with more photos taken tomorrow to see how they reacted to the feeding.:sign0005:

 

[bf74]

Damn Shady, you never fail to impress bro.Everything is lookin super-tight.Love those mystery cuts-looks like a blue-hash I grew out a while back.Some complex lookin smoke there.

 

[Raiderfan420]

Thanks again for the help and sorry again for the highjack. Hey man those are some great shots. Just hope that shower rod doesn't break while you are hanging from it.LOL I just have this picture in my head of you dangling on a the edge of the bathtub LOL. Anyway, it is amazing how good your plants look man. It really looks like you have your ph/nutes/etc dialed in now man. I still can't give you anymore rep for some reason or you would have it my friend!

 

[3d3n]

Seriously Nice Work, Design, Genetics, Bathroom, Thread...

You got it goin on Shady:RastaBong:

Things are gonna get Bright for Shady :rastadancing:

Keep it Green

 

[LEBDOG]

You gotta love the plant trained to grow from the sink to the left area where the light is! That is funny!

 

[Shady]

Shady Update...

Damn Shady, you never fail to impress bro.Everything is lookin super-tight.Love those mystery cuts-looks like a blue-hash I grew out a while back.Some complex lookin smoke there.

Very kind words bro... I'm always diggin' through your journal and cool setups! :cool Mmmm, that blue-hash sounds good...

Thanks again for the help and sorry again for the highjack. Hey man those are some great shots. Just hope that shower rod doesn't break while you are hanging from it.LOL I just have this picture in my head of you dangling on a the edge of the bathtub LOL. Anyway, it is amazing how good your plants look man. It really looks like you have your ph/nutes/etc dialed in now man. I still can't give you anymore rep for some reason or you would have it my friend!

Again, no worries and no prob buddy... I do hope to see your updated siggy though as I'm not sure the PM will allow you to cut and paste it properly. It's funny cuz I was having trouble editing hyperlinks, but once I figured it out in Word, I can literally update and make new links within a few seconds... :anim_44:

As for the shower rod... yeah, it's not totally secured and it slid once...:icon_spin: I almost ended on top of Section A.

Seriously Nice Work, Design, Genetics, Bathroom, Thread...

You got it goin on Shady:RastaBong:

Things are gonna get Bright for Shady :rastadancing:

Keep it Green

Thx for checkin' out my journal 3d3n! Hopefully the next round will be out of the bathroom and into a tent... :smirk

You gotta love the plant trained to grow from the sink to the left area where the light is! That is funny!

:giggle Hahaa, I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice the Purple Kush... I realized that I couldn't get the bamboo back on and still scale the bathroom ledge. I ended up using a couple yo yo's to hold her up... She's been a disaster since the day I got her several months ago. I figure she'll be a perfect hash candidate...



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Shady Update

Okay, yesterday’s feeding went well. Here’s the numbers:

Shady Bloom Feedings…

Section A
Summary of Monday’s Soil Section Feedings... 2/20/10
The resulting teas are as follows in ml/gal: CM:3/BC:8/HH:8/PBP Bloom:10 = 1018 PPM, 6.27 pH *Start of Wk #7

Section B
Summary of Monday’s Soil Section Feedings... 2/20/10
The resulting teas are as follows in ml/gal: CM:4/BC:5/HH:6/PBP Bloom:10 = 920 PPM, 6.40 pH *Start of Wk #5


707 Headband with a few more white hairs…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/707HB1-2.jpg

A quick shot of the 707 HB in Section B for comparison…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/707HBSectionB.jpg

Master x Bubba continuing to swell quite nicely…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/MasterxBubba-2.jpg

And since I won’t be growing the Mystery Kush 2 again, I figured she deserves a few shots…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/MysteryKush20-2.jpg

http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/MysteryKush21-2.jpg

http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/MysteryKush22-1.jpg

http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/MysteryKush23.jpg

Okay, I plan on watering the soil plants in the Shady Veg Station tomorrow with a decent dose of CalMag. Here’s the bottom shelf after a lot of topping and trimming…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/BottomShelf.jpg

The future mothers on the top shelf are making progress although the Purple Kush in the center may someday be replaced…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/FutureMothers.jpg

Another shot of the ebb ‘n flow tray’s flood depth on the seedling side, which is about 2” higher than the drain side with all the larger clones…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/SeedlingFloodDepth.jpg

I have also topped all the clones on the drain side to keep the canopy level with the lights…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/VegEnF.jpg

Finally got some roots poking out on the Double Underdawg 3’s clones…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/Dud31.jpg

Here’s the Dud 3’s top…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/Dud30.jpg

Gonna wait another day and then plant all the clones into the ebb ‘n flow and select a couple for soil, to replace the mothers on the bottom shelf…
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Round%204/Clones.jpg

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