TSD *attempts* autos indoors, winter boredom.

[PipeCarver]

I dunno man, I usually don't mess with it either... I think they say 5.8 to 6.2 is the optimal range for weed. It could be slightly low, but probably not enough to cause lockout? I don't like the color matching method, everyone has different eyes lol... I'm honestly over this damn auto.... maybe it will be dead by the time I'm done work and I won't need to worry about it anymore lol.

Hey, I grow in promix and I want my ph around 6.5...When I take fresh soil and add my house water at 7.4 ph to the soil I'll get a run off close to 6.5 - 6.6 I try to ph my feed & water to 6.8 ish ( 6.9,6.7,6.6 ) is good....

I'm more concerned with low ph than high. My nutrients bring it down on their own and just a drop or 2 of my PH down acid does the rest. I've 2 of the $20 ph pens and I just got 2 rolls of ph tape ( cheap amzon $12) just to double check the calibration is close enough...I don't need 100% accurate I just need to know if I'm too high or too low....and the tape will confirm I'm close with the pens.

 

[PipeCarver]

6.2-6.8 is my OK zone, I PH every single watering regardless of nutes or not. I still use the Rosenthol PH scale for my soil.

My happiest spot is 6.3 where i believe it has the largest uptake of all nutrients.

check out a combo of maganese and zinc. zinc seems to really snuff out the blade tips first yours, sprinkle a little maganese spots on there ...

my 2 cents, but it's going towards the bill. I know you're insanely experience and have probably thought of this

Zinc deficiency (compare edges of fan blades) & Maganese spots

zinc -
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Spots from maganese

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Nice chart, Its good to have those charts to turn to in times of trouble and to help prevent troubles if we can absorb the info.

 

[TSD]

I should probably Ph my runoff for the hell of it. I don't usually have to worry too much about this stuff outside because the soil is more forgiving, so though Ive done a lot of growing, I usually don't have a ton of deficiencies and flowering inside, this is the first that. I feel like it looks like a bunch of different things as far as deficiency symptoms. I just fed it an array of shit and I know it will take time to turn around if it's going to, so I'm just going to be patient at the moment.
@Cirroji I think it's possible, might be low on everything because I didn't feed for 2 weeks, under the assumption that it's easy to overfeed autos and that I had slightly overfed already, but probably just too much N, and everything else plummeted, 4 plain waterings and the soil was probably depleted.

 

[CactusJack1]

I would just water with epsom salts about one tablespoon per 4-5 gallons for a couple of waterings and try to get PH around 6.3 thats my happy spot with promix. I only grow autos and use promix and i add one tablespoon of epsom salts in every feeding from veg on

 

[CactusJack1]

If you havent fed in four waterings start them with quarter feed and epsom salts. Then moving forward feed every watering at quarter ratio if they look hungary up the nutrients a little.

 

[TSD]

If you havent fed in four waterings start them with quarter feed and epsom salts. Then moving forward feed every watering at quarter ratio if they look hungary up the nutrients a little.

This was 3 weeks ago now that they had the plain water, and it was 3 plain and 1 epsom at a tablespoon per gallon. I was so afraid to burn that I uderfed. After the plain, they had 3/4 strength bloom nutes, then plain, then half strength, then just epsom, then plain... we're looking like shit at this point... then only seaweed at double strength cause I thought potassium, plus calmag at full strength, then camg plus seaweed at regular strength plus quarter strength bloom. Too much fucking around and not a consistent schedule. My own damn fault lol. Made it harder than it needed to be. Whatever, it was out of boredom anyway... I have plenty of bud currently, I'm just sick of it all lol.

 

[TSD]

Here's a nice selection of shit leaves, because fuck this plant I don't care if I shock it lol. Big ones are lower fans, small ones are mid to upper leaves. The intervienal chlorosis is new to the party.

Deficient in all the things probably.

 

[TSD]

Tips are curled up like elf shoes... crispy charred elf shoes.

 

[CactusJack1]

I would not give up on your plant there hard to kill . Those leaves dont look happy !! Have you ever had your water tested if there is enough calcium in it i would stop with the cal mag to much of that will lock out everything else. Im no expert but i would go with quarter feed every watering with epsum salt at a lower ratio maybe teaspoon per gallon. Just my thoughts

 

[CactusJack1]

The buds look ok the leaves not so much but who smokes leaves

 

[TSD]

I would not give up on your plant there hard to kill . Those leaves dont look happy !! Have you ever had your water tested if there is enough calcium in it i would stop with the cal mag to much of that will lock out everything else. Im no expert but i would go with quarter feed every watering with epsum salt at a lower ratio maybe teaspoon per gallon. Just my thoughts

Yeah I have hard water. I didn't give calmag until last week for that reason..
But two of those 3 plain waterings in a row were distilled... why? Who knows. So I gave a couple doses... didn't plan on it again... probably... lol.

 

[TSD]

The buds look ok the leaves not so much but who smokes leaves

Bud is useless currently, barely started making trichs.

 

[CactusJack1]

Once you get your plant back in the happy zone the trichs will come.

 

[TSD]

Ok... so the meters I ordered are still a week out. I tested the runoff of plain water with the powder style ph thing for soil because I have no other options, and it appears to be around 5. Should I flush? Should I wait for the meter? I hate to flush, they hate it and get pissed and I'm in flower with this stupid thing. It's still slowly getting worse.

 

[PipeCarver]

Ok... so the meters I ordered are still a week out. I tested the runoff of plain water with the powder style ph thing for soil because I have no other options, and it appears to be around 5. Should I flush? Should I wait for the meter? I hate to flush, they hate it and get pissed and I'm in flower with this stupid thing. It's still slowly getting worse.

if you are that low in soil I'd add 2 table spoons of powdered Dolomite lime as a top dress and water with properly ph'd water...Meters are great but you should have some ph strips to double check the accuracy of the ph testers......strips don't lie and they're cheap....I got 2 rolls just recently for $12 Cdn whats that after exchange $5

 

[TSD]

if you are that low in soil I'd add 2 table spoons of powdered Dolomite lime as a top dress and water with properly ph'd water...Meters are great but you should have some ph strips to double check the accuracy of the ph testers......strips don't lie and they're cheap....I got 2 rolls just recently for $12 Cdn whats that after exchange $5

Yeah I had a pack of them but they got wet, I need to order some more. I'm hesitant to do anything before I have an accurate reading... not that I really care at this point, it looks like shit and I need to focus on my actual crop, the one I'm going to be smoking for a year.

 

[Goodshit97]

Yeah I had a pack of them but they got wet, I need to order some more. I'm hesitant to do anything before I have an accurate reading... not that I really care at this point, it looks like shit and I need to focus on my actual crop, the one I'm going to be smoking for a year.

Id stick that auto in a south facing window and call it good. Your outdoor stuff is more important imo since its your smoke for an entire year.

 

[TSD]

Id stick that auto in a south facing window and call it good. Your outdoor stuff is more important imo since its your smoke for an entire year.

I'm probably going to when it comes to that, they're ok till they need to be transplanted into bigger pots because they won't fit back in the little seed starting tent. So glad I racked up an almost $400 electric bill for a plant that's going to be garbage. This is why I grow outside lol.

 

[Goodshit97]

I'm probably going to when it comes to that, they're ok till they need to be transplanted into bigger pots because they won't fit back in the little seed starting tent. So glad I racked up an almost $400 electric bill for a plant that's going to be garbage. This is why I grow outside lol.

My electric bill is 350-420 every month, it sucks.

 

[TSD]

My electric bill is 350-420 every month, it sucks.

Yeah, honestly, it's not even worth it for me to grow inside at that rate... honestly don't think I'll ever buy a tent now that I realize how ridiculous it is. I'm used to a little more when I start my babies, guess I've never had all that shit running in tandem with all the extra electricity that's used in winter. I don't even have good lights or proper equipment. I could buy it for cheaper and it would be a lot less work. I'll stick to outdoor.