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Exactly. It is safe up to 598 degrees. At 599 degrees F it starts outgassing fumes that are bad for you.Was just posting it out there. Not aimed at you.
Slick sheet...isn't that like parchment paper rolls, but teflon?
Exactly. It is safe up to 598 degrees. At 599 degrees F it starts outgassing fumes that are bad for you.Was just posting it out there. Not aimed at you.
Slick sheet...isn't that like parchment paper rolls, but teflon?
If you winterize the butane and cannabinoids in a freezer a few hours; just put the liquid in a Styrofoam cooler with Dry ice the bit of clorophyll and lipids will stick to the bottom and wall of the container giving yoy a better flavor and smoother vape.No for sure I'm well aware iv got a good bit to learn and usually I would just crack on and do it but with the inherent danger in bho extraction is kinda stopping me from just trying to learn a bit before I even buy anything since if I buy a peice o shite I don't have the money to then buy another better model.
I appreciate the help lads.big time.
The vacuum pump also lowers the boiling point.a vacuum pump? yes you need that to evacuate the air in the material tube for a safe extraction.. there also used to evacuate the air in a vacuum chamber which is what you should use to properly purge your oil
Its not Absolutely necessary but you will get a much better product by purging the butane completely.That just goes to prove iv got a lot to learn as I had no clue you needed that vacuum thing(still not sure what it's for.i assume to make sure the thing is totally empty of air/gas before use?) or that you put it in an ice bath.
Boiling point?could you explain that part please two bears?The vacuum pump also lowers the boiling point.
Lets use water as an example.Boiling point?could you explain that part please two bears?
Again sorry for all the silly questions.i would usually just do something and try to learn it as I go along but that's not really a good idea with this I would imagine.i want to make sure I have an idea what I'm doing before I get the equipment for it.
Thanks guys.
Green dragon?is that from that crazy bugger master Thai?Lets use water as an example.
At Sea level water boils at 212.
I live at 3,600 feet elevation here tge boiling point is 207. At the top if Mount Everest the boiling point is somewhere between 189-192 if memory serves.
A vacuum Chamber reduces the air pressure on tge BHO. So it will boil like crazy at temps too low to affect the terpenes.
I AM THE MAD SCIENTIST.
I have a little dog (Kami a little Miniature Pincher (Min PIN))
She is 4 years old and she started having problems going #2 abd she acted as if it was very painful.
So i made some Green dragon tincture that i put on edibles.
I thought i would put 1 drop on a bite of her food and allow to sit out so the alcohol (Everclear) could evaporate.
There is only 2.5-3 mg cannabinoids in one drop the way I make the Green dragon.
I started giving her 1 piece of dog food with 1 drop Green Dragon every other day.
Two days later she is back to normal.
In a few days i will try 1 drop of hemp seed oil to see if that helps her.
The Green dragon is an alcohol tincture of cannabis.Green dragon?is that from that crazy bugger master Thai?
Iv been looking into heat only purging.i dont have access to any fancey gadgets.iv tried to google it but I'm only really getting utube vids on the subject but I'm only on my phone and don't have enough data to run em.
Would love to hear Any and all tips ,methods or tricks of the trade from you guys since you guys seem to know wat your talking about and grey wolf inparticular is the extracts master.im hoping honest flattery will get me somewhere.lol.cheers.
Iv been looking into heat only purging.i dont have access to any fancey gadgets.iv tried to google it but I'm only really getting utube vids on the subject but I'm only on my phone and don't have enough data to run em.
Would love to hear Any and all tips ,methods or tricks of the trade from you guys since you guys seem to know wat your talking about and grey wolf inparticular is the extracts master.im hoping honest flattery will get me somewhere.lol.cheers.
Not a master eh?only a real masters deny being a master.not saying everyone who Denys being a master is one of course but I'm sure you get what I'm Trying to say.No master, just another student picking the keen alleged fine minds of gurus where I find them, though I have been around long enough to remember how we did it in the hoary days of yore and survived.
I infer that we are talking about purging open blasted BHO, given the thread this is on and lack of fancy gadgets, and that all visible butane is gone as our starting point.
Given that it is open blasted, any mystery oil will still be there, so choice of butane is more critical than if you are pre-distilling your butane in a CLS.
Butane is listed as GRAS (generally regarded as safe) by the FDA and considered a Class III solvent, meaning residuals must be below 5000 ppm. That is actually relatively high and affects taste and nose effect at those levels, more than concerns about toxicity.
That brings us to the question of what you want to do with the concentrate, because if you simply decarboxylate the raw oleoresin collected at 250F for about 30 minutes, the residual solvent will be well below FDA guidelines, typically ND (none detected at test cut off point). That is suitable for medibles.
If you redissolve it in ethanol and winterize the mixture, by the time you remove the alcohol, the butane will also be gone.
You can reduce the amount of butane by chasing the puddle around on a piece of parchment in a thin film with a heat gun.
You can leave it in a thin film on a heat mat around 135F overnight, and reduce residuals.
The longer it sits molten in a thin film, the lower the residual butane, but also the lower the residual mono terpenes, aroma, and flavor. The primary advantage of purging under vacuum, is the ability to use less heat and a shorter purge period, so as to achieve better purges and retain more of the aroma and flavor.
so once all visible signs of butane have disappeared it's still highly combustible?ok got it.im only working with really small bits.heat purging butane over a burner or any other source of ignition is extremely dangerous and not recommended what so ever! My personal opinion is if you don't want to invest in the proper and safe equipment then stay away from bho extraction before you hurt your self of someone else.... there is no being lazy or cutting corners in this game it can litteraly be do or die!
What happens when all that butane you just purged off pools right below the pan and on the burner. Once it gets in between 1.8% and 8.5% then boom!
Some people may try and tell you otherwise but it's really not a risk anyone should be taking
Yes as long as your within the lel it is highly combustible... Really small bits eh....... I've said what I have to say.. I wish you the best of luck with your endeavor. Be safeso once all visible signs of butane have disappeared it's still highly combustible?ok got it.im only working with really small bits.
I will do my best to stay intact.thanks for the time,info and dire warnings.Yes as long as your within the lel it is highly combustible... Really small bits eh....... I've said what I have to say.. I wish you the best of luck with your endeavor. Be safe
hey bud just wanted to say that if you look at the queen bee they are made with a non reactive plastic to butane.... also the key being ventilation for safety...and common sense of course.. and most people don't start in a lab, so don't be afraid to do it just do it with your head on.. i like yourself only need to process a small amount of material.... just done my first iso wash tonight and have to say it was a very unpleasant experience, stuff stinks :D... and time scale is way longer think I'm just going to carry on perfecting my bho for now...I will do my best to stay intact.thanks for the time,info and dire warnings.
Thanks bobby boy I appreciate the advice.its the purging the raw unpurged bho properly that's eluding me but I'm pretty persistent wen I want something.i know I'm not going to get the best of the best with these methods but I don't really require it.just something decent and safe to inhale.hey bud just wanted to say that if you look at the queen bee they are made with a non reactive plastic to butane.... also the key being ventilation for safety...and common sense of course.. and most people don't start in a lab, so don't be afraid to do it just do it with your head on.. i like yourself only need to process a small amount of material.... just done my first iso wash tonight and have to say it was a very unpleasant experience, stuff stinks :D... and time scale is way longer think I'm just going to carry on perfecting my bho for now...
Yes but I think it makes for a superior product.greywolf here posting above is literally THE guy on the forums for extracts and he uses ISO so if he does it's surely gotta be worth it.hey bud just wanted to say that if you look at the queen bee they are made with a non reactive plastic to butane.... also the key being ventilation for safety...and common sense of course.. and most people don't start in a lab, so don't be afraid to do it just do it with your head on.. i like yourself only need to process a small amount of material.... just done my first iso wash tonight and have to say it was a very unpleasant experience, stuff stinks :D... and time scale is way longer think I'm just going to carry on perfecting my bho for now...
yes correcto graywolf is the man i believe previously of skunkpharm research he would know all there is to know... we are lucky to have him on the farm.. i'm sure i will be asking him some questions myself sometime soon;)Yes but I think it makes for a superior product.greywolf here posting above is literally THE guy on the forums for extracts and he uses ISO so if he does it's surely gotta be worth it.
I will probably give ISO a go aswell.i would actually probably be better served doing ISO as it seems it would cost less to do it.
May I put QWISO into perspective from my view, starting with the observation that the fish trap exists only because of the fish, and the fish is more important than the design of the trap?Yes but I think it makes for a superior product.greywolf here posting above is literally THE guy on the forums for extracts and he uses ISO so if he does it's surely gotta be worth it.
I will probably give ISO a go aswell.i would actually probably be better served doing ISO as it seems it would cost less to do it.